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April 25th, 2013 Leave a comment Go to comments

Shackleton Toys

Formed by Maurice Shackleton in 1939 the company originally traded as James Shackleton & Sons Ltd producing a range of wooden toys such as dolls houses and lorries.

The company was based at the ‘Wheatsheaf Works’, Malkins Bank, Sandbach, Cheshire and its original pre-war wooden lorries were of a simple design with a wooden chassis and body. These toys were based on the Foden trucks of the day, its no coincidence as the Foden factory was just down the road and Maurice, prior to embarking on his toy making enterprise, actually worked there. The lorries carried a pressed metal radiator to the front of the cab and were also easily identifiable by means of their green Shackleton name badge which was applied to the rear of the cab.

Although established as a manufacturer of wooden toys, today Shackleton are without doubt best known for their range of diecast models. Each model was manufactured using seperate parts which could in turn be taken apart and then reassembled by means of a basic tool kit. This tool kit simply consisted of a spanner and screwdriver and was included with each model.

It was in 1948 that Shackleton launched this range of ready assembled diecast constructional models based on the Foden FG 6 wheel lorry. Each scale model came housed in a lift-off lidded card box.

No one can doubt that the Foden diecast lorries produced by Shackleton were of high quality. All the components required to build the lorries were made in-house and that included the clockwork motor. The motor was located inside the cab itself and power was transferred through a drive shaft to the vehicles rear wheels. The downside of all this attention to detail and the subsequent labour costs involved meant that the final price of the vehicle was not cheap, on the contrary the first boxed Fodens were retailing at a whopping £2/19s/6d (£2.97 1/2p) well outside the price range of the average schoolboy, at a time when the equivalent Dinky Supertoy Fodens of the day could be picked up at your local toy store for around 10/- (50p) !

No doubt it was these high production costs together with other associated factors that resulted in the production of these high quality toys continuing for just four years before the company was forced to close its doors in 1952.

SHACKLETON MODELS INCLUDED :

    < SHACKLETON FODEN FG6 TIPPER LORRY

 This particular model is finished in orange cab and tipping body colourway with red mudguards and a light grey chassis, lights detailed in silver finish. Various other colourways available included : lime green cab/back with red mudguards, light blue cab/back with red mudguards, light green cab/back with red mudguards, grey cab/back with red mudguards, red cab and mudguards with green back, dark blue cab/back with red mudguards, yellow cab/back with red mudguards, emerald green cab/back with red mudguards, pale blue cab/back with dark blue mudguards, red cab/back with red mudguards

SHACKLETON FODEN FG PLATFORM LORRY > 

Model shown detailed in yellow cab and flatbed colourway on a red chassis with grey mudguards. Lights and radiator grille detailed in silver finish. Other colourway versions included : dark green cab/platform on grey chassis with red mudguards, light blue cab/platform on grey chassis with dark blue mudguards, yellow cab/platform on grey chassis with blue mudguards, dark blue cab/platform on grey chassis with red mudguards, light grey cab/platform on grey chassis with red mudguards, dark blue cab/platform on red chassis with black mudguards, dark blue cab/platform on red chassis with grey mudguards, yellow cab/platform on grey chassis with red mudguards, pale green cab/platform on grey chassis with red mudguards.

< SHACKLETON 8 TON DYSON TRAILER

The Shackleton 8 ton Dyson trailer could be used alongside any of the Shacklton Fodens. As with the Foden lorries the Dyson flatbed trailer came in a variety of colourways, the one shown opposite in dark blue flatbed finish with grey chassis and red mudguards with towing eye to the front. The thick card picture box came with two small end flaps and one large tuck-in flap to both ends.

SHACKLETON ‘DAVID BROWN’ TRACKMASTER 30 > 

Like the Shackleton Foden models this ‘David Brown’ Trackmaster 30 came with a clockwork motor drive. Crawler tractor in red colourway finish ( I have only come across this colourway finish but that does not mean to say it was the only finish available ), with black rubber tracks and chimney. Model came complete within a picture card box with lift off lid.

Above is a typical advertisement of the day for Shackleton Foden models which were placed in publications such as Meccano Mgazine etc. Interesting to note that the retailer must have placed the original advertisement as it is their name that appears with no mention of the manufacturer !

NOT QUITE THE END OF THE STORY !

In 1958 the Foden factory saw the introduction of lightweight glass-reinforced plastic (GRP) used in cab production. The first Foden GRP cab was the distinctly styled S21 model with its large split windscreen and bulbous front wheelarches. The S21 was initially nicknamed the ‘Spaceship’ or ‘Sputnik’ by the commercial press, but it is its other endearing nickname of ‘Mickey Mouse’ which seems to have outlasted them all. Not certain how the ‘Mickey Mouse’ name came about, the names that last tend to stick often come from the drivers of the vehicles themselves. Did they think that the S21 looked nothing like a conventional lorry ? or perhapse some wag though that head on it did resemble the cartoon character ? whatever it was the S21 which re-emerged as a ‘Shackleton’ model sometime in the 1990’s.

 < REPRODUCTION ‘SHACKLETON’ LTD. EDITION S21 PLATFORM LORRY

The S21 Mickey Mouse cabbed platform lorry was produced as a limited edition reproduction ‘Shackleton’ model in the late ’90’s by Frank Hardern using original tooling and dies. Produced in dark green colourway finish the model was produced with a resin cab, pressed steel chassis with a wooden platform body. Unlike the originals which were clockwork driven the S21 was powered by an electric motor turning through universal drive shafts to the rear bogie.

The models came in a brown, lift-off lidded card box, with an applied printed paper label. The limited edition certificate, which came with each model, was in the form of a reproduction log book.

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  1. Ron Fry
    May 25th, 2013 at 22:27 | #1

    1st series clockwork 6-wheeled flatbed models had 5 leaf front springs.
    Screw nut steering wheel.
    Smaller diameter prop shaft.
    No crescent cut out to the back of the cab.
    ————————————————-
    2nd series;6 leaf front springs(but they still bent!!).
    8ba screw to attach steering wheel to shaft.
    Thicker prop shaft with 6ba thread.
    Cab now had cut out to back to allow prop shaft coupling.
    Cab often had a small dia. hole to rear as it was also used
    on the then introduced tipper which used the hole to secure the
    spare wheel.

    Not all models came with a FODEN transfer on the rear o/s mudguard either

    Hope this is of some use. R.F.

  2. dave
    May 26th, 2013 at 21:39 | #2

    Thanks for sharing that knowledge with us Ron, your input and info on Shackleton models is much appreciated.
    David.

  3. Eleanna
    June 9th, 2013 at 18:52 | #3

    Dear David,
    My name is Eleanna and I am a student director in London. At the moment I am directing a short film which the main part is taking place at an old toy shop where one of the characters was making mechanical toys for 20years.

    I just saw your page, which is marvelous by the way, and I took the liberty to ask you where we could find old toys to dress our set.

    The shop should be a magical place, with lots & lots of toys which are mechanical or have a hand made look…

    We have only a small budget for the props but we really want to make a great job.
    Could you please suggest me, if that is possible where we could find great toys in London that they are very cheap or that we could borrow for a week???

    Thank you very much for your help in advance.

    Sincerely,
    Eleanna

  4. dave
    June 10th, 2013 at 16:50 | #4

    Hi there Eleanna, my wife and daughter have helped out local theatre groups in the past with low cost glass and ceramic items etc., to be used just the once for various plays, condition was not important as they would only be seen from a distance, however your request is somewhat different to that. I would suggest that the majority of vintage small mechanical toys were of tinplate construction, larger items could introduce wood as the main construction material. No doubt you are looking for a mixture with one or two large statement pieces. The problem you have is that original vintage pieces will also carry a premium price which means that you need to be looking at reproduction pieces to stand a chance and it doesn’t matter if they work or don’t ! I always look more closely at films/plays/adverts on the TV where toys are included – amazing how many times the tinplate american saloon cars from India crop up, these are brand new but look c1950’s ! Seriously you don’t need me to tell you that your budget is going to be your biggest problem !!
    Internet could be the way forward if you only wanted one or two items but not much use when you require a shop full.
    Don’t have any dealer contacts in the London area either so thats a dead end.
    Have you approached any toy museums in your area who may help you out with loan items for some form of mention in your credits.
    Alternatively look for and visit any toy fairs locally and see if you can find a friendly dealer who may help you out on a rental basis.
    Sorry I know its not much help but thats the best I can come up with.
    However if anyone reading this post can help out I will be happy to put the two parties together. David.

  5. David Shackleton
    November 23rd, 2014 at 20:42 | #5

    Dear David,

    Just found your website and noticed the above request of 2013 for help.

    I am the eldest (now 68) of Maurice and Joan Shackleton’s four children. If you would be interested in being in touch with us in connection with requests such as the above or any other matters to do with our Dad’s business at Malkins Bank, please get in touch.

    Best wishes,

    David

  6. Tom Matthewa
    January 6th, 2015 at 11:03 | #6

    Hi David, for the last 60 years I have owned a Shackleton Toy Foden FG Lorry in yellow with red mudguards. It is still boxed and has hot been played with a lot as it was always “too good”. It still has the tools but I think the wind up key is from an antique clock – it is much too ornate!The condition is good except today I noticed for the first time that there is a chip to the cab roof about one cm diameter. I do not intend selling it but would like an idea of its value and wonder if there are any others in the London area with a Shackleton Toy Foden FG? Thanks. Tom

  7. dave
    January 7th, 2015 at 10:52 | #7

    Happy New Year to you Tom, as I’m constantly saying its almost impossible to give a value on any specific toy as there are far too many variables. However as a price guide I would estimate that your Foden, working and in good condition in a good box, should realise somewhere around £200 – £300. For a better estimate your local auction house that has specific toy sales would give you a better guide. By the way I hope the chip you mention is 1mm. rather than the 1cm. you state !
    Cheers, David

  8. dave
    February 4th, 2015 at 18:34 | #8

    Hi David and thanks for the kind offer !
    As you know I have already messaged you privately on this and will keep in touch.
    So far we have been able to handle the requests for info. etc on Shackleton items but if anyone has a particular sticking question, Shackleton related, then just message us and we will take it from there.
    Please note that any requests for help or info will only go through this site, on no account will we give out direct contact details for Mr. Shackleton.
    Thanks David once again for your comments, David

  9. Michael Hayes
    December 16th, 2015 at 18:40 | #9

    David

    I also have a Shackleton Foden lorry. Fairly good condition but some parts have got detached and we are missing some of the small brass nuts and bolts. Any idea where we could obtain some that would work (eg.Hex heads will not)?

    Michael

  10. dave
    December 24th, 2015 at 11:51 | #10

    Hi there Mike, as you know I have contacted David Shackleton on this and will keep you updated on any feedback we get. However I am posting your question just in case any of our visitors to the site can help out. Cheers for now, David.

  11. Tony Lodge
    April 22nd, 2016 at 16:18 | #11

    I have a collection of about eighty Shackleton lorries and about thirty trailers. I was lucky enough to have one as a child, which I still have in near perfect condition. My collecting bug started in 1978, when I saw one for sale for £30, at the classic car show. My original lorry came with an Abbey Corinthian Games parts list which is dated 1957, which is still in the box. I visited them in 1967 and met a chap who remembered the models and told me the last models were all thrown away because of the metal fatigue problems. Prior to getting my lorry a friend of my father, who worked for David Brown, gave me a four wheel David Brown tractor. Sadly I was too young to have this and took in apart and it was wrecked! I do remember it came in a green box with a picture on the lid. It was certainly made in the Shackleton style and have always wondered if these were made by Maurice Shackleton. My older brother was also given one and his survived in very good order until his wife gave it to their son to play with in about 1980! Sadly that was the end of that.
    I noticed someone was after some 8BA brass nuts and bolts. Clerkenwell Screws Ltd can supply these and can be contacted on 020774056504.
    Any information is always interesting
    Many thanks
    Tony

  12. dave
    May 5th, 2016 at 19:23 | #12

    Hi Tony and thanks for that info, much appreciated.
    David.

  13. Graeme Ellis
    October 1st, 2016 at 19:52 | #13

    Hi David
    I have a Shackleton clockwork lorry but my young son knocked it off the shelf and Both ends of the flatbed have broken off,is there anywhere that make replacement flatbeds

    Many thanks

    Graeme

  14. dave
    October 1st, 2016 at 21:14 | #14

    Graeme, Sorry I don’t know of anyone making replacement flatbeds at the moment but will post this request for help and hope someone may be able to come up with some info. for you !
    You could try ‘toysintime’ through my LINKS section who do Shackleton spares but don’t think they list the flatbed but they may be prepared to cast one ? worth a try. Please mention this site when you try them.
    All the best David.

  15. Ron Fry
    November 20th, 2016 at 22:21 | #15

    Tony, I believe the model you recall was made by Denzil Skinner.

    If you do a Google search you will find several examples………..

  16. dave
    December 1st, 2016 at 19:38 | #16

    Further to the earlier post from Tony which included a reference to a David Brown tractor and its pedigree I can only agree with the comment from Ron that it was in fact not a Shackleton model but in fact one produced by the model maker Denzil Skinner.
    Lt. Col. Denzil Robert Skinner, had a very successful Army career which included in his later years being involved with armoured vehicle design development. After his retirement from the military he joined Vivian Loyd Tractors and in 1961 founded Denzil Skinner & Co. Ltd., model makers.

    Denzil Skinner models were ‘proper’ diecast vehicles, heavy and highly detailed and I can well understand you thinking it may have a Shackleton connection. David Brown Tractors were protective of their reputation and only gave license to toy manufacturers to produce models of their vehicles very occasionally. However Denzil Skinner were commissioned to manufacture a model of the DB 25D tractor.
    Hope that helps Tony and thanks for the back-up once again Ron.

  17. Keith Holdsworth
    September 27th, 2017 at 22:22 | #17

    Need to find someone who can restore my Shackleton Fodens.

  18. dave
    October 13th, 2017 at 18:56 | #18

    Sorry Keith I don’t know anyone who specializes in restoring Shackleton lorries, can anyone help ?
    David.

  19. Barry Cropper
    October 24th, 2017 at 16:38 | #19

    Hi….I haven’t seen any reference to the acquisition of James Shackleton & Sons Ltd by The Chad Valley Group. I have a headed letter from Chad Valley dated 10th October 1952 signed by a Mrs Martin and sent to my father advising that “…we have acquired the tools and parts for manufacturing the models hitherto produced by Messrs James Shackleton & Son…” enclosing “the spare parts you require” (plus a parts price list). I have a ‘near perfect’ FG6 flatbed + Dyson trailer which I’ve had from being a small child (I’m now an older child, nearing 70…) and they have always been in a two-part box comprising a plain cardboard base and a deep lid which is patterned but with no illustrations, and bearing a Chad Valley label on one end. Do you know of the marketing/sales of Chad Valley in relation to the Shackleton models..?

  20. dave
    October 26th, 2017 at 21:18 | #20

    Hello there Barry and thanks for this tester ! As I have said many times before this site is just a thumbnail on various toy companies. I am too old now and don’t have the time and resources to go digging into the nooks and crannies of various individual toy companies, I only wish I had ! The more you delve the more you find there is to resolve. Typically in this case the link between Shackleton and Chad Valley. I assume by the dating of your letter that as Shackleton ceased trading then the receivers came in and sold off what they could salvage. Looks as if Chad Valley bought the outstanding Shackleton stock, tools, dies, blanks and spares etc. at a time when Chad were acquiring other toy companies. Did they consider producing ‘Shackleton’ models themselves ? Did they purchase the brand name ? How did your father hear that Chad had acquired what was left of the Shackleton stock ? Did they appreciate the detailed models that Shackleton made were not ideal candidates for mass production and did they have a change of heart and decide not to take this further ? The questions begin to stack up and I for one cannot give you any answers.
    I have come across the boxes you mention. These are often referred to as ‘wallpaper’ boxes – for pretty obvious reasons. However I have never come across any with a Chad Valley label before, what I have seen on several of these ‘wallpaper’ patterned boxes is a single colour printed label with the model reference and marked ‘Temporary Pack’ which I believe were issued towards the end of the company’s production in 1952.
    To date I can find no reference to either the marketing, promotion or sales of Shackleton models under the Chad Valley name.
    Hopefully someone out there can shed more light on this for the two of us.
    All the best, David.

  21. Russell Fox
    December 6th, 2017 at 10:55 | #21

    A very informative article, thanks for writing it.

    Possibly (for all I know) Shackleton may have started off at Malkins Bank (which is a village a couple of miles outside of Sandbach) but the Wheatsheaf Works wasn’t at Malkins Bank, it was in the stables of the Wheatsheaf Hotel, a former coaching house which is in the centre of Sandbach.

    A few people in the town still remember the Shackleton workshop being there.

    Regards
    Russell

  22. dave
    December 20th, 2017 at 11:47 | #22

    Hi there Russell, not going to argue the point, the works may well have been in Sandbach rather than at Malkins Bank. All the info I had to hand gave the address as Malkins Bank and indeed when David Shackleton messaged me he stated ‘his dad’s business at Malkins Bank’. It may well be the business began at Malkins Bank and then moved to the Wheatsheaf Works ? alternatively the registered address may well have been at Malkins Bank with the actual works sited elsewhere ? As I have said many times these posts are just to give a brief overview of various toy companies and anyone who can flesh out the post is welcome to. So many thanks for the info and if you can add to it so much the better.
    Thanks again, David.

  23. Chris Oborn
    February 4th, 2018 at 17:34 | #23

    Hi, I have had a Shackleton lorry since the sixties, it being my fathers before that. Several parts were broken over the years but thanks to toys in time I now have replacement parts. The chassis and rear wheel guards are a little scabby (chips and a little surface rust) so I’m thinks of cleaning them up and repainting. Does anyone know of a source of the correct colors (grey for the chassis and a darkish ref for the mudguards) ?

    Regards

    Chris

  24. dave
    February 10th, 2018 at 16:06 | #24

    Hello there Chris, I don’t know of a specific paint manufacturer and shade required as a match for your Foden ? These trucks came in a variety of colours and had a ‘sheen’ to the finish rather than a matt finish so to do a half way decent job you would need to strip the model down to its component parts before stripping all the old paint off and then repainting (base + top coat etc.) using a small spray gun. Simply ‘touching in’ tends to leave the model looking more of a mess than it was originally. If you intend to keep the model then an exact colour match may not be necessary but a word of warning if you intend to sell on most buyers would prefer a totally original model ‘warts and all’ than a badly repainted one.
    You mention ‘Toys in Time’ and I have had a link from my site to theirs for some years now in order to help visitors to my site looking for spares … a pity they have not reciprocated as originally agreed with a link back to ‘rodgersantiques’ !
    Wish you well in your project, David.

  25. W John Stringer
    March 19th, 2018 at 12:58 | #25

    Hi there Dave and Chris
    I also have a Shackleton Foden Tipper brought by my parents back in the 1950’s and have managed to repair this model with parts from the on internet, but todate the part which is I am finding difficulty with is a repalcement Prop shaft and front linkage, and idea where one could locate?

    Many thanks John

  26. Tony Lodge
    April 24th, 2018 at 18:57 | #26

    I have recently heard of a Shackleton Foden FG6 flatbed which including the mudguards is gold in colour. It looks original and has a red chassis with the later style prop shaft. All other red chassis I have seen have had the earlier style drivetrain. Does anyone know if this an original colour and if so was it produced for a special occasion such as maybe the coronation.

  27. dave
    April 28th, 2018 at 15:43 | #27

    Hi John, sorry to say the only people I have come across offering Shackleton spare parts are ‘toys-in-time’. If you go to the ‘LINKS’ section on the L.H. Side of my pages you will see the link to their site. I would appreciate a mention to this site if and when you contact them as they offered to do a reciprocal link on their site but never did ! If anyone else can provide Shackleton spares or knows of a site then please let me know. It would seem there is quite a demand for Shackleton spares for anyone out there that can produce them.
    Let me know if you have any success John, David
    .

  28. dave
    April 28th, 2018 at 19:55 | #28

    Hi there Tony, all the original Foden flatbeds I have seen have either had red or grey wings. I have come across other colours but all had been repainted, admittedly to a very high standard but were never the less repaints. Having said all that I have nothing that tells me specifically that Shackleton did not produce a Foden with gold wings, seems an odd colour to use unless it was a ‘one off’ factory special – interesting idea ?
    Anyone any thoughts on this ?
    David.

  29. Tony Lodge
    May 2nd, 2018 at 17:20 | #29

    Looking at the pictures the gold coloured lorry is all gold with a red chassis. On further inspection this is what I would call a mark 2 with the later type prop and cab as used with a tipper. The Foden decal on the back wing is red and the paintwork, despite looking as though it was done very well, is well play worn. Thanks for the reply. The mystery still exists!
    Regards
    Tony

  30. dave
    May 11th, 2018 at 18:33 | #30

    Can anyone out there shed any further light on this unusual Shackleton Foden …. please drop us a line if you can help solve this mystery !
    David

  31. Tony Lodge
    May 23rd, 2018 at 18:23 | #31

    Just reading your comment about the colour of Shackleton mudguards. All the tippers and trailers I have come across have had red mudguards. However, I have a whole variety of flatbeds with red mudguards as well as green, yellow and blue lorries with grey mudguards with red chassis. I also have light blue and yellow lorries with dark blue mudguards. Rarer ones I have include a dark blue lorry with black mudguards and grey lorries with not just black mudguards but a red painted grill. Owning two in this colour and having seen another, I have no reason to think these colour variations are totally original.
    Regards
    Tony

  32. dave
    May 24th, 2018 at 20:42 | #32

    Hi and thanks for the update Tony
    David

  33. David H Sullivan
    April 2nd, 2019 at 19:52 | #33

    As an ex Press-Tool maker I produce, for collectors, replica spare parts for the original Shackleton models, FG Foden Flatbed and Tipper lorry using a centre lathe, milling machine and a sheet cutting laser. In producing the replicas all the castings measure up in exact millimeters rather than imperial units of measure (feet & inches) which in the 1950’s was the engineering standard of the day throughout the UK. Question. Were the casting manufactured abroad in for example, France or Italy? Would be very interest to hear your answer.
    Kind regards,
    DHS
    Bedford

  34. dave
    April 4th, 2019 at 13:15 | #34

    Hello there David, Not sure of the answer to that question, I have always assumed that they were produced ‘in-house’ so to speak simply because of the numbers involved. Shackleton models were not mass produced as you well know and if they were out sourced at all then I would assume that that would have been done more locally than going abroad. ( If anyone can give us a definitive on that point then please drop us a line.)
    If you are producing spare parts for Shackleton models David and you have a web site then please let me know and I will be happy to include a link.
    Cheers, David.

  35. April 6th, 2019 at 19:28 | #35

    Production of Shackleton die-cast models came to around 40,000 units over a 5 year period. For a small company that’s mass production. The models were first manufactured in a collection of stable buildings set behind, and within the purlieu of, the Wheatsheaf Inn Sandbach. Putting aside the exact number of separate Cast Alloy parts required for each model the manufacture of castings is no small issue. Each item would require a steel mould to be manufactured with the mould having say up to 10 mould cavities to produce 10 items in one cycle of the moulding process. A cab may have been just a single shot mould. If crude casting process machines were used (and even then we are not talking about some lightweight table top device, die-casting is a serious undertaking) to get the hot molten zinc alloy liquid, (at 380C -720 F) flowing into the mould in no small undertaking either by gravity or by pressure injection. And to achieve this takes a crucible furnace along with associated heat, fumes, heavy ingots, scrap and pollution as well as attendant safety issues. All this at the back of a working Inn? I doubt it. Add to this the fact that die making was and remains a very skilled profession; (I do hope a current politician reads and picks up on that salient point!) I again doubt that Maurice Sheckelton’s operation could have employed the skilled staff and precision machine tools required to make such moulds. Following the company’s relocation to Malkin’s Bank, even then in-house casting does not seem a viable option. As previous, my guess is the casting were produced under sub-contact somewhere on the Continent. France, Italy or, Western Germany. And, who ever produced them at the time should hang their head in shame. They were, and still are, absolute rubbish!
    Regards,
    DHS
    Bedford

  36. dave
    April 14th, 2019 at 13:55 | #36

    Hi David and thanks for your comments,
    Whether you are correct about the sourcing of Shackleton castings coming from a sub-contractor based in Europe I can only reiterate the fact that David Shackleton informed me that as far as he was concerned everything ,including the moulds themselves, was produced ‘in house’. Not 100% certain that this applied to the small nuts and bolts used however as these may well have been ‘bought-in’. Don’t lets lose sight of the fact that Davids father Maurice did work at the Foden factory at one time and could no doubt tap into the expertise available there and no doubt that would include the skilled workforce.
    I wish I had the time to look into this further but sadly despite being retired for some time now I have other calls on my time.
    Best Regards, David.

  37. David H Sullivan
    April 28th, 2019 at 12:54 | #37

    Thank you for reply. By the way, the family name was, Sheckleton not, Shackleton. This information coming from a member of the Sandbach Society.
    Regards.
    DHSn
    Bedford

  38. dave
    April 29th, 2019 at 10:56 | #38

    Hello again David, interesting you say the family name was Sheckleton rather than Shackleton. All I can say is that in all the correspondence I have had and indeed the e-mail address I have been given the family name is given as Shackleton. I think I will stick with things that have been given to me first hand rather than rely on second hand info, however well intended.
    Cheers, David.

  39. Bob Burgess
    June 14th, 2019 at 21:16 | #39

    Hi, I believe my father Frank Burgess may have worked for a while at Shackleton at the wheatsheaf hotel, sandbach, it would probably have been around the late 40s or early fifties as during the war worked at Foden on tanks then later at rolls Royce in the experimental wood dept. He used to get orders when at Rolls for making at home wooden trucks when I was a small child ( born 1947) I still have some of the tin plate wheels and he also build wooden dolls houses with tinplate doors and windows, I would love to know what his association was with Shackleton.
    I will ask my two older sisters if they know anymore detail, I remember there being a Foden Shackleton toy at home.

  40. dave
    June 16th, 2019 at 16:57 | #40

    Hi there Bob and many thanks for sharing that with us, if you can add to this then drop us a line.
    David.

  41. Rob Laughton
    July 22nd, 2019 at 04:46 | #41

    Hi, great Forum here. Can anyone give me some information on my SII Foden flatbed lorry relating to the box pls? I’ve not been able to identify any similar box and note David’s advice about the ‘wallpaper’ patterned boxes. Mine has no brand identification, nor is it marked ‘Temporary Pack’. It has paper labels stuck on 4 sides with “A GENUINE F.G. FLAT TOP FODEN SCALE MODEL” printed in grey/blue on 3 sides with a photo of the truck (complete truck on top) and tray and cab removed on 2 sides. One end has part of the advertisement (1958: Abbey Corinthian Foden lorry advert, Meccano Magazine) from Abbey Corinthian Games Co. The box is pale green. Thanks Rob

  42. dave
    July 23rd, 2019 at 13:55 | #42

    Hi Rob,
    No joy on any info for you on this box of yours. Had another trawl through my literature but without any success.
    Can anyone shed any light on this ?
    Cheers, David.

  43. Ron Fry
    August 15th, 2019 at 10:35 | #43

    @Rob Laughton
    Rob, I have not seen a box with the labelling affixed as you describe, but I have seen the plain “wallpaper” boxes and the label as separate items. I would suggest therefore the then proud owner used the sales leaflet to “pretty up” the otherwise plain box.

  44. dave
    August 24th, 2019 at 10:42 | #44

    Thanks for taking the time to give us your thoughts Ron. A pretty good explanation I think.
    David.

  45. August 28th, 2019 at 16:13 | #45

    Hi I am restoring my Shackleton Forden does any one know what the paint colour is please it’s green and red and where I can buy it from thx

  46. dave
    August 29th, 2019 at 10:09 | #46

    Can any Shackleton restorer help Shaun out with this one ?
    David.

  47. August 30th, 2019 at 20:29 | #47

    Also after a couple of bolts for wheels and four screw and bolt for fixing the frame together.
    Thx. still need help finding a spray can colour too thx

  48. dave
    September 2nd, 2019 at 17:37 | #48

    Come on you guys, Shaun is still looking for help on this.
    Can anyone help him out ?
    David

  49. Ron Fry
    October 16th, 2019 at 21:36 | #49

    Shaun…. Shackletons came with a range or different length screws all of 8BA thread.If you could tell me exactly which bits you need to fit together I am sure I can help you.

    The front wheels are mounted on stub axles which in turn are peened onto the front uprights. again all do-able.. I can help if you get stuck.

    The definitive colours of the Shackleton range unfortunately have yet to be established, unlike say Dinky or Corgi the colour shades seem to vary with each production run. My advice to you would be to keep the original paint unless it is particularly poor ( a repaint is always going to be a repaint no matter how good the colour match ) or alternatively take the cab or flatbed to a reputable car paint supplier and get them to match/mix a rattle can for you..

    Such a can is around £ 12…. an off the shelf rattle can in a similar colour would be cheaper but you soon accept the nothing to do with Shackleton models is cheap lol..Hope this helps some.

  50. dave
    October 20th, 2019 at 13:16 | #50

    Hi once again Ron and I’m sure Shaun for one will appreciate your input on this.
    Thanks once more, David.

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